In today’s episode, Rick and Sam are joined by Dr. Andrew O’Shaughnessy to discuss the civic importance of education, especially as Thomas Jefferson viewed it in the context of the American experiment. Examining the principles of the founders, in particular Jefferson, they discuss how education can teach us to put aside self-interest for the public good and the role of education in America’s progress as a nation. Additionally, they discuss Jefferson’s optimistic view of America and the continued debate over the complex legacy of the founders.

A big thank you to guest Andrew O’Shaughnessy. Andrew is Vice President of Monticello, the Saunders Director of the Robert H. Smith International Center for Jefferson Studies at the Thomas Jefferson Foundation and Professor of History at the University of Virginia.  He is the author of An Empire Divided: The American Revolution and the British Caribbean and The Men Who Lost America: British Leadership, the American Revolution and the Fate of the Empire. The latter received eight national awards including the New York Historical Society American History Book Prize, the George Washington Book Prize, and the Society of Military History Book Prize. His newest book, The Illimitable Freedom of the Human Mind:’Thomas Jefferson’s Idea of a University, will be released in 2021.

Sam Scinta is President and Founder of IM Education, a non-profit, and Lecturer in Political Science at University of Wisconsin-La Crosse and Viterbo University.

Rick Kyte is Endowed Professor and Director of the DB Reinhart Institute for Ethics in Leadership at Viterbo University. 

Music compliments of Bobby Bridger- “Rendezvous” from A Ballad of the West